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Author:  Colin North [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:38 pm ]
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Thinking to buy an HNT GORDON spoke-shave as a Christmas present.
I already have 2 Stanley 151's flat and curved, and have used the flat one for neck shaping, never the curved one so far.
Recently saw a review of the curved HNT for electric guitar neck carving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8MbEsh-xOs
So, which shokeshave, if you use one, do you find most useful for neck carving acoustics - flat or curved?

Author:  James Orr [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:52 pm ]
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Colin, not an answer to your question, but David Barron also has a great demo video on YouTube, and I believe he shows the curved and flat both in use.

Author:  johnparchem [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:54 pm ]
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I use a Lie-Nielsen Boggs Flat Spokeshave for neck carving. I cut a series of facets that I mark out on the neck depending on the shape I want. I think a curved spoke shave would just throw me off.

Author:  bluescreek [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:53 pm ]
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60 grit belt sander

Author:  klooker [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:01 pm ]
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Veritas Flat.

Don't think I'd like to try to sharpen a curved on.

Author:  JSDenvir [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:37 pm ]
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Google Dave's Shaves. Fabulous wooden spokeshaves. Windsor chair makers swear by them, and those guys live and die with their spokeshaves.

Steve

Author:  Heath Blair [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:57 pm ]
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I've never tried a curved spokeshave, but I love my flat spokeshave for carving necks.

Author:  Tom Gibbs [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:16 pm ]
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Flat with a rounded sole works best for me when carving the neck.

Author:  Trevor Gore [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:42 pm ]
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I couldn't listen to that guy on the video for more than a couple of minutes, but the spokeshave you need for neck carving is this one, with the 10mm (3/8") sole radius, which means you can shave all the way around a heel (nominal 2" shaft/heel radius). It's a pretty small tool, and takes a bit of getting used to, (including how to sharpen the small blade), but it's a fabulous tool for carving around heels and the neck/head transition. The fact that it's high angle (I've never used it with the blade reversed) means it will smooth a lot of cranky wood that other shaves can't.

For carving the main neck shaft, most decent spokeshaves will work. I like the Veritas one, called their low angle shave, because that can be set up as a high angle shave, too, which is how I use it.

The neck on this guitar is curly Queensland maple with a brushbox "collar' (it's a tilt neck) and that little spoke shave will handle all the reversing grain and harder/softer wood transitions very well. The only other thing that will do that is sand paper (Qld maple end grain doesn't take to scraping too well).

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Author:  DannyV [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:53 pm ]
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klooker wrote:
Veritas Flat.


What Kevin said. I use to make facet lines. I don't find them necessary these days. It's cool how necks just take shape. I mostly just pay attention to neck thickness and of course flat along the plane. The rest just takes shape. I know how I like a neck to feel and my customers seem to like it. :D

To answer you question Colin. In a some time more dust filled shop than I like the spoke shave is a welcome relief and somewhat therapeutic. I'm tempted to buy a curved sole to get further into the heel.

Cheers!

Author:  DannyV [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:57 pm ]
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Trevor Gore wrote:
I couldn't listen to that guy on the video for more than a couple of minutes, but the spokeshave you need for neck carving is this one, with the 10mm (3/8") sole radius, which means you can shave all the way around a heel (nominal 2" shaft/heel radius). It's a pretty small tool, and takes a bit of getting used to, (including how to sharpen the small blade), but it's a fabulous tool for carving around heels and the neck/head transition. The fact that it's high angle (I've never used it with the blade reversed) means it will smooth a lot of cranky wood that other shaves can't.

For carving the main neck shaft, most decent spokeshaves will work. I like the Veritas one, called their low angle shave, because that can be set up as a high angle shave, too, which is how I use it.

The neck on this guitar is curly Queensland maple with a brushbox "collar' (it's a tilt neck) and that little spoke shave will handle all the reversing grain and harder/softer wood transitions very well. The only other thing that will do that is sand paper (Qld maple end grain doesn't take to scraping too well).

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Well that's just plain sexy!

Author:  George L [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:34 pm ]
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I have a Veritas spokeshave with the curved sole and find that it does an excellent job. I've never used a flat-soled version. Mine makes neck carving short and pleasant work, so I'm happy.

Author:  Pmaj7 [ Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:24 pm ]
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That is a sweet looking tool I would like to find under the tree!

Author:  flounder [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:14 am ]
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I have the Veritas curved and flat shaves, but use the flat most of the time

Author:  Colin North [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:30 am ]
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Quote:
I couldn't listen to that guy on the video for more than a couple of minutes

I hear you, all his videos are the same. He sounds like the tattoos must have gone very deep...

Author:  B. Howard [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:38 am ]
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I use my flat spokeshave.

Author:  Jim Kirby [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:13 am ]
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Veritas low angle spokeshave. For some reason I've just never gotten the hang of the more usual ones. (Probably not enough practice.)

Author:  Bobc [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:16 am ]
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Curved sole. I use this one. Just do a good job sharpening the blade.
http://www.rockler.com/kunz-spokeshaves?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=pla_with_promotion&utm_campaign=PL&sid=V9146&gclid=CjwKEAiA7f-yBRDAgdv4jZ-78TwSJAA_WdMaHB1DFQvAgOQtrrM5V_PEttJhSEyHjEhCG3n30uR7nRoCnnjw_wcB

Author:  Robbie_McD [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:24 am ]
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Veritas flat here as well - Trevor, that is a very cool tool and a beautiful guitar!

Author:  Dan Miller [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:47 am ]
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Wooden shaves (including vintage and Dave's Shaves), with both flat and radiused soles.

Author:  Bri [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:26 am ]
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I Have gotten some grief for suggesting this before, but I like to use a drawknife. I find I can control the angle of the blade better than a shave. I do use a flat shave also.

Author:  ernie [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:08 am ]
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I have about 15 spokeshaves . My current fave is the chinese ebony/rosewood they are cheap on e - bay or from Japan woodworker or lee valley. They all have their limitations. I also use a japanese 4in sculptors drawknife and or a /bandsaw , swedish and homemade drawkinifes , and a home made 3in drawknife. The L/n shaves can take the thinnest shavings . I also have a set of 3 mini brass spokeshaves for tight spots .they are hard to sharpen!

Author:  WendyW [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:09 am ]
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Have always used a flat shave.

Author:  kwerry [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:05 pm ]
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Flat Veritas mostly and a couple of antiques...

Kerry

Author:  Bob Shanklin [ Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:41 am ]
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Veritas low angle.

Bob

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